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if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a new system together where they would get in a room, chuck all the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of thing. we saw that last time around and if you read bob woodward's "the price of politics" it's one of the themes that comes through loud and clear. he's doing some things differently this time, though and one thing that i think is very interesting, he's taking his case to the american people and doing it day after day. all of us have talked on this show and other places about how bad the president has been in the past on selling what he wants to happen, on explaining his policies and really bringing people around to them. and we see him now trying to do that in a more forceful way than he's done in the
if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a new system together where they would get in a room, chuck all the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of...
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to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con man, as smart as he obviously was, apparently didn't have enough of because it seems that the mystery man didn't actually ask for any of the billion dollars or his cut up front. so sure, the ukraine loses a lot of face, but he leaves with presumably nothing. he didn't even get any cash. thanks so much for watching. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on dining in restaurants, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. par
to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con man, as smart as he obviously was, apparently didn't have enough of because it seems that the mystery man didn't actually ask for any of the billion dollars or his cut up front. so sure, the ukraine loses a lot of face, but he leaves with presumably nothing. he didn't even get any cash. thanks so much for watching. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on...
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to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con
to quote bill clinton, that takes a lot of brass. and a lot of smarts, which is something that our new con
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i remember when newt gingrich played the game of chicken with bill clinton and the question was who is going to get blamed? well, it was the republicans, and it was newt gingrich. and it look as though it's going to happen once again. republicans in the house especially are going to be blamed, and that means bad news for republicans not only over the next couple years but also in -- well, really over the next several elections. we don't even have to limit it to the next election. >> dr. peterson, mr. boehner also said something very curious today. he said, and i'm quoting him, he took a great risk in his speech the day after the election when he said he was open to more revenue. he was putting revenues on the table, but the only thing he said was exactly what mitt romney had been saying for the last years, closing loopholes and reducing deductions. >> and, martin, he still had to walk that back afterwards. professor reich is right here. what the american people need to understand is that we're looking at a political party that for different reasons can sometimes put politics ahead of t
i remember when newt gingrich played the game of chicken with bill clinton and the question was who is going to get blamed? well, it was the republicans, and it was newt gingrich. and it look as though it's going to happen once again. republicans in the house especially are going to be blamed, and that means bad news for republicans not only over the next couple years but also in -- well, really over the next several elections. we don't even have to limit it to the next election. >> dr....
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clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the other thing the president put on the table, i understand, is refinancing proposal. >> right. >> where people trapped in 7%, 8% mortgages can go down to 4% and 5% mortgages have money in their pocket. these are responsible homeowners to spend out there. so the republicans, i think they're brooding. i think they're upset. i think they're in shock over this election. and they are behaving badly in this sense. we can join hands and take care of the tax cuts for 98% of the american people. can you imagine if i told you, we were in an argument and i gave you 98% of what you want, wouldn't you grab it? this doesn't make any sense to the folks out there. and that's why the courage
clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a consumer-driven economy. about 70% of the economy is consumer driven. and the other thing the president put on the table, i understand, is refinancing proposal. >> right. >> where people trapped in 7%, 8% mortgages can go...
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you have the best friend of bill clinton terry mcauliffe as the democratic nominee. some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved to be a template if that party that's out of power wins. 2005, tim kaine ends up running a race, appealing to independents, sfresing his religious faith. actually kind of having a very soft appeal to a lot of folks. he's adopted that 2006 and 2008. a lot of the ideas barack obama ran on in 2008 was tim cane. >> he endorsed him for president, just as a sidebar. >> mcdonnell was focused like a laser on the economy. what did we see republicans do? focus on the economy. try to turn social issues away. he was very successful in 2005. house republicans and senate republicans successful. m
you have the best friend of bill clinton terry mcauliffe as the democratic nominee. some people are painting this as a tea party against the clintons in mcauliffe. things can still happen. it looks like a fascinating race. >> chris, as you know, political reporters, we only have two gubernatorial races to cover. we give a lot of attention to virginia and new jersey. what's fascinating about virginia, since i've been covering politics on the national stage, the off-year election has proved...
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i keep going back to the 1990s, who would ever look at bill clinton and think -- would look at bill clinton and newt gingrich as the models of, you know, of compromise in the age of impeachment. but those guys did not like each other at the beginning of the process. in fact, they hated each other in '94. but they spent four years behind closed doors, you know, knocking each other's heads. they figured out how to balance the budget together. and they will both say it. the president will say to gingrich, gingrich will say to the president, four years in a row for the first time since the '20s, and the president is flying off today to a campaign rally. i'm rooting for the president. i am. i'm rooting for boehner. i really am. i want them to all succeed. i want us to avert this crisis. it depresses me, though, the way the president's team is having him perform on the national stage. i think this is a bad mistake. >> i think it's too early to tell. "national review's" jim garrity, thank you. eugene robinson, thank you as well. your post is online at washingtonpost.com. >> can we go to richard? w
i keep going back to the 1990s, who would ever look at bill clinton and think -- would look at bill clinton and newt gingrich as the models of, you know, of compromise in the age of impeachment. but those guys did not like each other at the beginning of the process. in fact, they hated each other in '94. but they spent four years behind closed doors, you know, knocking each other's heads. they figured out how to balance the budget together. and they will both say it. the president will say to...
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in that sense i think he is like other great second-term presidents like ronald reagan, bill clinton. when he gets out there and makes his case in the country, that reverberates back in the capital. i think it's the best way for him to move these members of congress. >> erick, the main people he has to talk to here quite frankly are congressional republicans. are they somehow going to be swayed after this last election that the president's got the right idea all of a sudden? it doesn't sound right. >> no, i don't think so. and to paul's point interestingly enough, i was struck during the debt ceiling debate that every time the president spoke inside washington or the white house, his poll numbers went down. when he got out of washington and went out into the crowd, his poll numbers would go up saying basically the same thing. so i do think it works for him with the crowd and with the public. but i'm not sure it's going to work with congressional republicans. >> erick, i have to ask you while we have you up there and you knew this was going to come up. there's been some talk about you
in that sense i think he is like other great second-term presidents like ronald reagan, bill clinton. when he gets out there and makes his case in the country, that reverberates back in the capital. i think it's the best way for him to move these members of congress. >> erick, the main people he has to talk to here quite frankly are congressional republicans. are they somehow going to be swayed after this last election that the president's got the right idea all of a sudden? it doesn't...
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bill clinton made it very clear the arithmetic they're using doesn't add up. they know that we're not going to do certain things. we know they're not going to do certain things. but you cannot get there without a balanced plan. we understand that. you need cuts in spending. you need to deal with entitlements and you also need revenues. let's be real. i don't think, frankly, mr. boehner, and what he said, absolutely no increase in rates. you want to do it by cutting preference items. but he hasn't come up with his list of preference items. the reason he hasn't come up with his list of preference items is because he knows he can't get the votes to do it. and frankly, he doesn't politically want to propose it. let's see -- >> perhaps this is the starting point. we're here. we'll get there. >> congressman hoyer thank you for joining us. >> thank you, sir. >> let's be real. >> thanks, congressman. still ahead this morning here on "starting point" 23 minutes past the hour. bonuses for shutting down hostess. why executives are raking in the money next. ans believe th
bill clinton made it very clear the arithmetic they're using doesn't add up. they know that we're not going to do certain things. we know they're not going to do certain things. but you cannot get there without a balanced plan. we understand that. you need cuts in spending. you need to deal with entitlements and you also need revenues. let's be real. i don't think, frankly, mr. boehner, and what he said, absolutely no increase in rates. you want to do it by cutting preference items. but he...
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i could go back to other methods of obstruction with bill clinton, who reached out all the time. that is a minor factor. of killing thee omendment tree been done to much. that resulted in some protest. it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is the first time we have seen it. >> there are two separate issues -- of shrubs and on nomination and obstruction on the legislative side. you'll see these judge bowed to 99-1. remember what we are talking about. the alternative is to move it by unanimous consent. this is not like the house where there is a vote and a member of they say -- i will have a roll call vote. the majority leader can schedule a roll-call vote or not. many times he does not. one individual is filibustering the judge. and we get a vote on that, 99- one, 98-2. no one was suggests that those individuals should be required to vote yes for that judge, is what unanimous consent is. that is not what the house does. heavy had majorities in force votes. what it comes to cloture -- this idea of holding the floor. a post cloture has to do that. oftentimes
i could go back to other methods of obstruction with bill clinton, who reached out all the time. that is a minor factor. of killing thee omendment tree been done to much. that resulted in some protest. it had much more to do with a concerted party strategy, which is the first time we have seen it. >> there are two separate issues -- of shrubs and on nomination and obstruction on the legislative side. you'll see these judge bowed to 99-1. remember what we are talking about. the alternative...
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when i was working for clinton we did a deal with gingrich. there was never ever a sense that we would put politics ahead of getting a balanced budget. we got it, we won the election and this president is putting politics ahead of everything. megyn: if republicans give president obama the tax rates on the rich what do they have to negotiate with? why would they do it? >> i think president obama has the winning hand. >> he does. >> i'm not sure in the long term -- if there is a recession, either there won't be a recession or there will and the republicans will get the blame. that's and high wire act to do at this point. it's very risky from this kind of elect to take this. he could get 85% of what he wanted -- >> he's also gambling on one thing. the republicans won't embrace bowlbowles-simpson and say we ha credible alternative. megyn: if they have the game of chicken and nobody blinks and we go off the cliff on january 1 how much time do we have before the economy starts doing this? >> the stock market will react first. that will and disaster
when i was working for clinton we did a deal with gingrich. there was never ever a sense that we would put politics ahead of getting a balanced budget. we got it, we won the election and this president is putting politics ahead of everything. megyn: if republicans give president obama the tax rates on the rich what do they have to negotiate with? why would they do it? >> i think president obama has the winning hand. >> he does. >> i'm not sure in the long term -- if there is a...
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bill o'reilly is right. there is a vacuum on this list. martha: to that end what would picking sandra fluke for example, where we are and who we focus on? take this young woman and make her into one of the stars of the democratic national convention? what does that say about us as a society? melissa: well in a way she is just, political pawn or an icon for the campaign, the obama campaign ran which was a very negative campaign implying that republicans were anti-women and soft on rape and horrible things clearly not true. i like, i wrote in the "boston herald", i like sandra fluke is the poster girl for. consider the resume'. 32 and still in college. let's look at her life. her claim to fame, she went as 31, 32-year-old in congress someone needs to pay my bills for me. how classic is that? you have combination of self-absorption unwilling to take responsibility for her actions. she is almost a perfect pick. martha: you look at the question, ask yourself seriously who would i pick, who should you pick, is there a leader out there? is there
bill o'reilly is right. there is a vacuum on this list. martha: to that end what would picking sandra fluke for example, where we are and who we focus on? take this young woman and make her into one of the stars of the democratic national convention? what does that say about us as a society? melissa: well in a way she is just, political pawn or an icon for the campaign, the obama campaign ran which was a very negative campaign implying that republicans were anti-women and soft on rape and...